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35 grains, 155 gr bullet. That’s a black powder pistol load essentially. Out of a 16″ bbl I’d estimate the MV at around 900 -1,000 fps. Enough to be useful. The 1858 Remington Army (44) will get about 850 fps from 30 grains FFF and a 140 grain round ball with an 8″ bbl. 1036 fps with the same charge under a 180 grain Buffalo bullet, so it’s hard to predict these things.
A percussion revolver is not a cartridge autoloader, but I usually get between 40 and 50 shots, using charges of between 28 and 40 grains, before fouling gets to be a problem with the revolver. I agree with the hypothesis that chamber fouling would be the eventual problem in an AK. In an SKS I’d guess that the piston fouling would be almost as big, or more of, an issue.
Since smokeless tends to be as readily available, or more available, than black, it’s hard to imagine a scenario wherein you’d have the black and no smokeless. If all propellants were unavailable, you could make your own black. Primer availability would tend to follow propellant availability, and so even the ability so make your own black would be of limited usefulness in keeping your AK going. Best get a flinter then, or come up with a recipe for your own primers..
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You can’t do that with an AR: AK Shooting Black Powder. | Gun Free Zone
12 October 2012 at 18:16
35 grains, 155 gr bullet. That’s a black powder pistol load essentially. Out of a 16″ bbl I’d estimate the MV at around 900 -1,000 fps. Enough to be useful. The 1858 Remington Army (44) will get about 850 fps from 30 grains FFF and a 140 grain round ball with an 8″ bbl. 1036 fps with the same charge under a 180 grain Buffalo bullet, so it’s hard to predict these things.
A percussion revolver is not a cartridge autoloader, but I usually get between 40 and 50 shots, using charges of between 28 and 40 grains, before fouling gets to be a problem with the revolver. I agree with the hypothesis that chamber fouling would be the eventual problem in an AK. In an SKS I’d guess that the piston fouling would be almost as big, or more of, an issue.
Since smokeless tends to be as readily available, or more available, than black, it’s hard to imagine a scenario wherein you’d have the black and no smokeless. If all propellants were unavailable, you could make your own black. Primer availability would tend to follow propellant availability, and so even the ability so make your own black would be of limited usefulness in keeping your AK going. Best get a flinter then, or come up with a recipe for your own primers..
Lyle
15 October 2012 at 13:13